Southern California D.A. Admits Jailhouse Snitches Are 'Probably' Liars
May 19, 2017
(
Huffington Post) ―
Orange County District Attorney Tony
Rackauckas, whose office faces three investigations over the use of jail
informants, told a “60 Minutes” reporter that those informants probably
shouldn’t be believed. Yet Rackauckas’ office has been using jailhouse
snitches to help secure convictions for decades, presenting them as
credible witnesses with credible evidence.
The interview comes from a preview of a “60 Minutes” segment that will air
Sunday on CBS about the county’s unfolding jail informant scandal, which HuffPost has been reporting on since it began to explode
in 2014. In
the segment, “60 Minutes” correspondent Sharyn Alfonsi interviews
longtime Orange County informant Mark Cleveland about the ways he has
helped Rackauckas and his office.
Cleveland tells the news show that for years he has
been placed in jail cells with or near defendants whom prosecutors had
targeted in attempts to obtain damaging information that could secure
convictions.
Cleveland claims in the interview that he worked
directly with Rackauckas and would even call him personally about
information he’d obtained. Cleveland says Rackauckas expressed his
appreciation
and helped him obtain reduced sentences for multiple
crimes.
Rackauckas
reportedly told Alfonsi that
there is no jail informant program in the county, despite mountains of
evidence to the contrary. A recent California appeals court decision
found
that there is indeed an informant program. The court also wrote,
“The magnitude of the systemic problems cannot be overlooked.”
The district attorney told Alfonsi that he remembers
Cleveland being “an informant many years ago in a case or two” but that
it’s a “fantasy” that he ever called Rackauckas on the phone.
“I think you should assume you’re talking to an informant, and if he’s talking, he’s probably lying,” Rackauckus said.
Cleveland Is Indeed A Longtime Informant
According to informant records maintained by the district attorney’s office and first
obtained by Assistant Public Defender Scott Sanders,
Cleveland is a veteran informant in county jails, helping prosecutors
obtain convictions against multiple defendants since at least the 1980s.
Cleveland claims he’s worked as a jailhouse snitch since the 1970s.
Sanders is the defense attorney who, in a
series of blockbuster motions,
has unearthed damning evidence of a jail
informant program’s existence. The evidence began to surface in the case
against his client Scott Dekraai, who pleaded guilty to murdering eight
people at a Seal Beach hair salon in 2011. The sentencing of Dekraai
remains in limbo now amid the
allegations of misconduct by prosecutors
and sheriff’s deputies stemming from the discovery of the use of an
informant.
In a recent motion, Sanders detailed five
cases from 2008 to 2010 in which Cleveland provided information. He
testified as recently as 2013 in two cases. One was overseen by
Assistant District Attorney Howard Gundy, who was part of the team that
prosecuted Dekraai.
Prosecutors apparently relied on information
from Cleveland despite the district attorney’s office’s own records that
labeled him a “problem informant,” in bold, underlined letters.
D.A. Has Used Jail Informants Himself In Several Cases
Jail informants with questionable moral fiber
have been used time and again by prosecutors in Orange County cases,
even by Rackauckas himself, who acknowledged as far back as 1985 in a
Los Angeles Times report to have used informants in
“several cases.” One such prolific jail informant used by Rackauckas was
James Cochrum, whom the Times dubbed “the most used informant” and who was recently described by Sanders in court documents as “a consummate scam artist.”
In 1985,
Cochrum had already used as many as
13 names while committing numerous crimes in at least three states and
while a member of the military, which ultimately led to his discharge,
Sanders detailed in court documents.
Cochrum claimed to have overheard
murder confessions in four cases and testified in three of them. So
valuable was Cochrum to Rackauckas that he personally accompanied
Cochrum to Utah to speak to the parole board on his behalf. Following
that visit, an administrative parole hold against Cochrum for escaping
from a Utah lockup was dropped.
In the 1985 murder-kidnapping trial of
William Gullett, Rackauckas helped win a conviction with Cochrum’s
testimony.
The Los Angeles Times reported that Rackauckas claimed he had
as many as eight informants who would testify.
Cochrum died in 2011 while serving time in Utah for communications fraud.
That same year, three years before the informant scandal would break open, Rackauckas’ office successfully opposed a motion for DNA testing
in the Gullett case. In 2016, Sanders sought release of the district
attorney’s informant file on Cochrum, but the request was denied by an
Orange County Superior Court judge who, as an Orange County prosecutor,
had also used Cochrum as a witness in a homicide case.
The Jailhouse Informant Scandal Continues
While Rackauckas reportedly denied the
existence of a jail informant program to “60 Minutes,” as the county’s
sheriff’s department has also done, the courts have basically declared
the debate over.
The debate is settled for Superior Court Judge Thomas Goethals,
who ejected the entire district attorney’s office from the remaining proceedings in the Dekraai case in
2015 due to findings of significant misconduct. The state’s 4th
District Court of Appeal affirmed Goethals’ findings last year. And,
despite years of denials,
Rackauckas’ own office acknowledged in
documents released in court last year that an informant program does
exist.
Law enforcement authorities use informants to
help bolster a case — a tactic that’s legal, even when the snitch
receives a reduced sentence or something else of value in exchange.
But Sanders has alleged that in some Orange
County cases,
informants recorded conversations with inmates who were
already represented by lawyers, violating an inmate’s right to counsel.
Prosecutors then presented damning evidence gathered by the informants
in court, withholding other evidence that could have been beneficial to
the defense. That tactic violates a defendant’s right to due process.
It’s unclear how many cases may be affected
by tainted informant evidence.
But a recently discovered internal memo
indicated that the Orange County Sheriff’s Department admitted a decade
ago to cultivating hundreds of inmates as informants.
Sanders has argued that every case involving a jailhouse informant in
the county over the last three decades deserves to be re-examined.
Despite the misconduct that has already
tainted the Dekraai case, California Attorney General Xavier Becerra
announced last month that his office would
continue to pursue the death penalty
against Dekraai. But Goethals has ordered new evidentiary hearings to
begin next week, citing “ongoing significant failures of compliance”
with “legitimate orders made by this court over the last four years.”
The hearings could have a dramatic effect on the sentence eventually
given to Dekraai.
Goethals said that he is considering the
“nuclear option”: the removal of the death penalty from Dekraai’s cases,
something he once said was “completely unthinkable” but is now a
possibility because of “extensive” allegations of misconduct, the judge
said. If Goethals were to take the death penalty off the table, Dekraai
could get life in prison without the possibility of parole, he said
last month in court.
Just this week, Sanders accused two Orange
County prosecutors of misconduct in their use of jail informants in two
past cases. The D.A.’s office has denied any wrongdoing in both cases.
Rackauckas has maintained that no one in his
office intentionally misused the jailhouse informant program. The
sheriff’s department adds that it has taken steps to create more robust
ways of documenting and managing inmates.
The malfeasance already found in the county and allegations of even more prompted the Justice Department to launch an investigation in December. The California attorney general’s office and an Orange County grand jury also continue to investigate.
Some Comments from Yahoo:
Thumper55 1 day ago
These people
are Criminals. Why would anyone think they would be truthful ?
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Eric 1 day ago
Politicians in
Los Angeles are as dirty as the informants.
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F 1 day ago
You mean to
say that people lie to get out of jail?
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Bob 1 day ago
Take all their
law licenses and prosecute the da office
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Rollwithit 1 day ago
Let's
see...jails get paid more per criminal...I wonder if there's an incentive to
put more people in jail...
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Satch 1 day ago
D.A = scourge
of the earth. There is no debating this. Fact.
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Tom 1 day ago
Prosecutor's
are jealous that snitches are stealing some of their thunder by lying to the
juries. If it were not for prosecutors themselves doing most of the lying there
would be no discussion. Fabrication of stories is what prosecutors do best,
that is how they secure a prosecution.
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Teri 6 hours ago
Something
REALLY smells here, wonder how many innocent people are behind bars because of
this scam.
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John 1 day ago
Yes! But they
are more honest and tell more truths than politicians!
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The Lone Biker 1 day ago
The American
justice system is full of crooked DA's and crooked cops. Obviously there are
many worse systems in the world but there are also many better. Anyone of
thinks the American Justice System is the best in the world has blinders on or
has not studied other systems. According to Forbes Investing, America does not
even make the top 15. Here are the top 10. #10 Singapore, 9 Germany, 8.
Australia, 7. Austria, 6. New Zealand, 5. Netherlands 4. Finland. 3. Sweden 2.
Norway 1. Denmark. The United States of America is #19. This is not common
knowledge but the USA has more people incarcerated than any other nation in the
WORLD and has the highest re-incarceration rate of any western nation. Nearly
70% of felons return to prison within three years where as in Norway only 20%
return to prison within three years. Why....because Norway focuses on
re-abilitation, teaching a useful skill and ensuring a prisoner has a job when
released. I have worked in the USA justice system for decades. It is time for
reform.
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Complicated Simpleton 1 day ago
That's funny,
cause liberal democratic California politicians are also lairs. Oh the humanity
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Metal-X 1 day ago
Imprisoned
informants are real and they are used in every county jail and every prison all
across the U.S. where prisoners are held during their trial, before their
verdict.
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rogerowens02 1 day ago
Cops have been video taped many times
proving they are notorious liars. Another reason there is no justice in our
justice system.
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Joel 1 day ago
I would
believe a jailhouse snitch before a DA. DA's don't care about truth, only a
conviction.
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MCD 1 day ago
And yet
thousands of americans have been sent to prison including hundreds of people in
orange county based on the DA's decision to use these witnesses.
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Jakar Brown 9 hours ago
If Rackauckas
used jailhouse informants to secure convictions and he had any knowledge, or
even speculation that these informants were lying, not only should those
convictions be overturned but Rackauckas needs to be fired. As well as brought
up on conspiracy charges to commit purgery. He's cheating.
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BigBill 1 day ago
Ahem - both
criminals and lawyers tell lies.
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Dave 6 hours ago
This also hold
true to most of the elected Government officials on Capital hill
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Guillotine 9 hours ago
Conviction.
Guilt is a pesty diversion. Conservatism at its finest.
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b 1 day ago
Orange County DA never arrrested Iron Man
supervising art director in case v award winning trans singer Bralalalala, for
sex assault. The director maliciously sued his victim and accused her of being
in a mob. He was sued for millions. The OC DA said they didn't like media
exposure so the case wouldn't be prosecuted
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Aware Citizen 3 hours ago
As usual, even
the "good guys" have to cheat in order to win. I wonder how many
innocent people are doing time because of this fraud. Prosecutorial Arrogance
has really reached a fever pitch in this country. They are now obviously
willing to cheat to win. There is no such thing as a fair trial. Never has
been, never will be.
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lifevibe 1 day ago
If the stooges
in the district attorneys office wern't employed by the government, they would
have died out in private practice long ago. Too tied into the police. And how
many bogus drug cases did they prosecute? Still defending bad cops. Getting
enough money under the table to do so. Defending crooked cops. Aiding and
abetting criminals for financial gain is a felony. Lawyers breaking the law in
court
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brent 6 hours ago
If a
politician could make money being a self employed lawyer, they would. But they
can't so they turn to politics to scam money. And feed off us like parasites.
On top of that they make the laws and regulations to fit their plan of
scamming.
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Jack 11 hours ago
The biggest
flaw in the American justice system is the plea bargaining scenario where a
guilty criminal can testify against someone facing charges, for favours such as
a lighter sentence or no charges at all. It encourages corruption among
lawyers, jurors, judges and the general public and achieves the opposite of its
original intention.
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J.B. Books 13 hours ago
the murican
justice system is the most corrupt in the world bar none . murican prosecutors
are the filthiest skumbags and all need smoked . there are no consequences for
them when they make up phony charges , over charge someone or hide evidence or
send innocent people to prison unless someone takes matters in to their own
hands and takes one of them out , which is exactly what needs to be done .
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Rich 1 day ago
Love all these
hateful comments about trump in this article I'll bet your still hoping obama
runs a third time right?
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A Vietnam vet ! 18 hours ago
I'm sure DAs
Do lei as well, anything for a conviction right !
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James 1 day ago
Looks like we
have found all of those "unnamed sources" we keep hearing about.
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David 3 hours ago
The truly
shocking part of this article is the fact that these extremely corrupt
prosecutors are still practicing law. All of these corrupt prosecutors who
knowingly used lying jailhouse informants should be brought before the
California State Bar and they should be disbarred. All of these defendants that
were convicted with the use of lying jailhouse informants should have their
convictions overturned. The fact that these things have not happened shows the
level of protection these corrupt prosecutors receive by both the courts and
the California State Bar. Do not expect these two entities to pursue justice
anytime soon.
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dlw13 2 hours ago
I am confused.
Why would they want to get out of jail: they get a healthy balanced meal 3
times daily, cable TV (probably only gets MSNBC), free healthy care (single
payer), clothing, free body art, etc. I am surprised that CA has not instituted
payments for a retirement plan for those that served 20+ years. After all, they
did the crime, did their time, and now everybody should pay for their declining
productive years.
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Glen 1 hour ago
So is the
leftist corrupt media.
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puff cogswell 13 hours ago
there is no
probably about it , they are without any doubt liars , anyone would lie when
facing the most corrupt justice system in the world that is trying to take
their lives . these snitches are not the bad guys in this , the bad guys are
the prosecutors that make up phony charges and over charge people and hide
evidence and knowingly send innocent people to prison and there are no
consequences for them doing this unless someone takes matters into their own
hands and takes out the trash , which is exactly what should be done .
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Snakeye 1 day ago
Well duh!!!!
How long did it take that Demoturd to figure that one out. Someone must have
told him
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The Icon 4 hours ago
Blasphemy.
Criminals would never lie!
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ZAPP 7 hours ago
The prison
system is top private business sector. They charge states millions in penalties
if their population drops Below 97% so when your times about done ur targeted
by fighting or lies you keep you there. Unfortunately for minorities they ate
their target demographic.
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joe 4 hours ago
Why would
criminals lie?
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Cody 16 hours ago
It blows my
mind. This problem is so understated, and truly goes against the sixth
amendment and due process. I mean just think about it. You have a right to an
attorney whenever you are being "formally" questioned by an attorney,
but then you are stuck in a cell for what is often nothing more than a lack of
money to post bail, and then in order to secure a confession, the police will
send snitches to question you and attempt to elicit falsehoods under the
incentive of reduced sentencing. Why in the hell is this still a thing?
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billie 1 hour ago
Orange County
public servants have created a cesspool of fraud stealing from the good
californians and giving to the criminals. The time has cone for Sheriff Hutchens
and Tony Rackauckas to pay for their participation in RICO of the highest
order!!! "STOLEN HOMES FUNDED OBAMACARE!" Read and Share!
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me 5 hours ago
Ya think?
Idiot.
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Rattler 5 hours ago
Just like the
majority of mainstream media.
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fat 17 hours ago
He must have
wanted the inmate to say a certain thing and he/she wouldn't so now he says
they are all liars. Many times the D.A.'s take inmates words when they need
them to close a case but one probably had some back bone and said I am not
going to play your game for you I am going to tell the truth the way it went
down and now it is all bad for the D.A. and now he is calling sour grapes. that
is just my take on things.
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Paris 11 hours ago
How is
possible that Judge Goethals would give Scott Dekraai life, when he killed 8
people in Seal Beach? This case deserves the death penalty and nothing less.
This was the largest mass murder in Orange County, and a life sentence would
send the wrong message.
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tj 1 day ago
lol no #$%$ I
told my lawyer same thing before one of my so called friend set me up. Even
though he was doing same thing but he ended up telling on me so me I ended up
doing 5 years and him never done a full day in jail only pointed a finger on
same crime and moved away I thought it was if u can't do the time don't do the
crime but it's more like if u can tell on someone you can do the crime
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Steve 16 hours ago
Statements and
testimony made by informants should only be used to prosecute others if there
is some other collaborative evidence that substantiates their claim. This
should be a no brainer, but DAs are some of the most crooked and power hungry
politicians that exist.
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Nedmorlef 14 hours ago
The DAs nor
the cops care. Just like on the outside the evidence is manufactured and
manipulated . Besides, those inmates get real criminal training when they can
watch the cops from the flank.
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Nedmorlef 14 hours ago
There's a lot
of corrupt DAs as well. District Attorney is just a fancy word for lawyer.
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GORDON 16 hours ago
WOW, he really
thinks that. He must be a very smart man.
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The Bishop of D... 17 hours ago
If the OCDA's
office were a private enterprise, it could be prosecuted for RICO violations.
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Tony O 17 hours ago
And so are
left wing wacko democRAT who can tell their slaves anything and they will
believe it!
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Foxymetroid 19 hours ago
Don't worry.
They only rely on the most honest and reliable "informants" for death
penalty cases, especially when they're pressured to get a conviction as fast as
possible.
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Teach 20 hours ago
What do we do
when our lawmen and prosecutors lie like dogs and violate the civil rights of
thousands?
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Chris 1 day ago
Just imagine
how many convictions happened because of a lying snitch. After all, they know
all these intimate details of a crime...who's to say they weren't the ones that
actually committed it rather than those that are falsely accused?
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spike 22 hours ago
So are the
California politicians.
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Jim 22 hours ago
Typical
Democrat.
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bob 22 hours ago
The narrative
of this article is everyone in prison is innocent?
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bob 22 hours ago
Mass murderers
getting lighter sentence because of unrelated actions of others? I will say it
again the only justice you can get anymore is what you administer yourself.
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Jim 22 hours ago
Must be a
Democrap to take him this long to figure that out. How stupid !
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David 19 hours ago
The moment we
fix the judicial system the rest of the country will right itself. Too many
innocents in jail, too many outdated laws and arrest quotas. Why do I have to
go to court if I get a speeding ticket? They created a system that benefits
them and takes money from us.
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bamaman 23 hours ago
Is everyone in
California stupid?
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leticia 13 hours ago
more like
definitely not "probably". especially if they are promised a lighter
sentence in return or more food. they sell their souls or anything!!! who came
up with listening to them or thrusting them anyway!!!
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Steve 1 day ago
Why shouldn't
we believe rapists, murderer's, drug addicts, thugs. They are the most loyal
and trusted of all society and need to be set free so they can then repent
which usually lasts for a two hours until the next victim falls pray.
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gotagetonup 1 day ago
I don't know
why they think they would lie? I mean they are upstanding citizens that would
never lie, steal, murder,etc.
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Double Agent 1 day ago
So, DA's
office is using this tactic just to have their conviction record higher at the
cost of someone's life? How about re opening those cases where these snitches
were used?
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Gato 1 day ago
Yeah, and DA's in CA let criminals off
easy in plea deals constantly, and constantly give all celebrities passes on
about anything illegal they do.
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Madison 1 day ago
The snitches
are usually bottom of the barrel addicts that the cops use for sex and
information in exchange for a way around laws...they put someone else between
them and the arrestee then automatically conflict of interest and our rights
don't apply anymore.
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hammer 1 day ago
The real issue
is why people need money to defend themselves against a corrupt system that
only imprison the poor.
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J.E.M 1 day ago
Oh and no one
intentionally abused the informant program. Or the Court didn't intentionally
wrongfully convict anyone. What did they do did they do it on mistake? And
since the made a mistake "unintentionally " does that mean the
damages are less?
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Bruce 1 day ago
Of course.
They're angry and feel cheated especially the ones that shouldn't be there,
(your narco war machine).
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Chuck 1 day ago
Sort of like
politicians then in that regard?
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Ooh Yeah! 1 day ago
How do you
prosecute a case like this? The witnesses are informants.
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David 1 day ago
Ya think! How
stupid must one be to trust anything a con in prison says. Like Trump, the con
will say anything to get out of the position he put himself in, i.e. blaming,
lying, etc.
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Hassan 1 day ago
Great job Capt. Obvious.
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Roger 1 hour ago
Not only are
jailhouse snitchers liars, but so are the Democrat Media.
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roy 1 day ago
Now if he
would just admit that police and prosecutors are also probably liars.
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ramon 1 day ago
Yeah, they're
trying to gain things for info. Most criminals are liars.
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GI Joe 1 day ago
Hey Tony why dont you review some of your
cases ? You hid stuff in mine and let the Victim/Witness get away threatening
to kill old ladies. You need to tell the truth, Judge Richard Standford is gone
You let the mother of Deputy DA slide on a felony. WHEN 60 MINUTES SHOWS UP THE
FBI wil be coming
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J.E.M 1 day ago
Gee and you
wonder why California is paying so much in wrongful convictions?
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K 1 day ago
Change the
word 'Jailhouse' to 'White House and Washington'. Same true story, just a
different location.
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kenneth 1 day ago
Truth, honesty
and the rule of law win every time. Got it.
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J 15 hours ago
Obviously the
crime is that Hillary didn't get elected and Trump is Trump. This impeachment
charade is nothing more than a obstruction and petty revenge for Trump winning
the election. How dare the US elect anyone other than a rabid Democrat!!!!
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Tony 23 hours ago
CA is a
cesspool and LA the stuffs that floats in it. They scream about rights for
people..but do the opposite ..typical liberals.
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Dumbdumb 1 day ago
I blame white
men. They are superior and I'm jealous
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Allen 1 hour ago
Gee , you mean
a CRIMINAL will lie to reduce his sentence ??? What WILL they think of next ? I
think a three year old would know better .
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Joe 3 hours ago
Doesn't take a
law degree to figure that out, jackass.
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Ready Player 1 4 hours ago
Prosecutor
doesn't mind if it's a lie just as long as it promotes his case will take it as
the gospel truth
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Derrick Zoolander 1 day ago
Are they all
blaming the Russians?
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baracuda 6 hours ago
Wow how long
of a study and Millions of our tax money did it take to come up with that one!
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68nb01 15 hours ago
So what aren't
DAs like him in prison for knowingly using liars, i.e., subborning perjury,
against those they prosecute.
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J G 7 hours ago
DUH, DumbA
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tom 8 hours ago
Been going on
for years all over the USA plant a snich in the jail and have them say what
ever you want them to say.
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Organic Plastic 17 hours ago
Yep...prisoners lie. But shouldn't the
judges and jury know that? You know who else lies? Everyone. including
witnesses who have never been arrested.
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METSFAN164 11 hours ago
It's strange
people in jail always seem to confess to their cell mates
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william 13 hours ago
The police and
the court system are liars and follow the good ole boy idea
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billie 1 hour ago
"STOLEN
HOMES FUNDED OBAMACARE!" Read and Share!
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MOTS 14 hours ago
So corrupt.
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John 4 hours ago
Headline
should read "Southern California D.A. admits all Democrats and liberals in
California are Liars.....and cheaters, and thieves...oh, and not just in
southern California...."
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Jacqueline 17 hours ago
Duh You Think!
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david 19 hours ago
But they are
more honest than the crooks in the Trump administration
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Mike 20 hours ago
That Da will
get his , when he wears orange
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Karol 21 hours ago
all are liars
in this country, even the president and the press
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Don 22 hours ago
SENATE AND
HOUSE OR LIKE CNN, ABC, NBC, BECK, JAILHOUSE SNITCHES, ALL LIARS. ANYONE WHO
THINKS CNN CAN REPORT NEWS PROPER BELIEVE JAILHOUSE SNITCHES ARE REAL
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Mark 23 hours ago
WHAT? IT CANT
BE SO.
Reply 0 0
michael 23 hours ago
worked with
convicts for twenty plus years one thing I learned if a convicts lips are
moving he is lying.
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kel 1 day ago
must be dem,s
and have a school to teach our leaders how to lie so much wonder if the have a
class for the media too
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Debbie 1 day ago
Depends on
what they get in return for the info..
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User 1 day ago
Gee ya think!!
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E R 1 day ago
So is their
government so it goes with the territory
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Peter Parker 5 hours ago
Is that coment
conected to the news that police shiff Bacca is going to jail July 25th?
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Carolynn 1 day ago
Smae thing as
the leftist on the Hill. And those type of "leaders" do not care!
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Madison 1 day ago
Orange County
uses these same people on the street to get into peoples homes
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Khagaraj 1 day ago
Jail house
snitches could be liars.But anonymous sources of MSM are angels of truth !
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder !
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Joseph 1 day ago
If my name was
"rack of ca cas" I'd change it to Smith !
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Toecutter 1 day ago
In other
words, jailhouse snitches are perfect democrats
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Fred 1 day ago
In California
a dying persons word, is good enough to convict you .
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robert 1 day ago
Ya Think! Duh!
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william 1 day ago
So they are no
different than the police and court system
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Martha Loretta 6 hours ago
u meen thay
LIE. damm your smart!!!!
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