March 28, 2015

German Pilots Cast Doubt on the Story that Co-pilot Andreas Lubitz Intentionally Crashed the Plane

In a statement (in German), prosecutors said they had seized medical documents from Mr Lubitz's two residences - his Duesseldorf flat and his parents' home north of Frankfurt - which indicated an "existing illness and appropriate medical treatment". The "fact that, among the documents found, there were sick notes - torn-up, current and for the day of the crash - leads to the provisional assessment that the deceased was hiding his illness from his employer", the report states. Germanwings confirmed it had not been given a sick note for the day of the crash. Duesseldorf's University Hospital issued a statement (in German) saying Mr Lubitz had attended the hospital on 10 March and last month. Adding that it had handed his medical records over to prosecutors, it said reports the co-pilot had been treated there for depression were incorrect.
Germany's Rheinischer Post newspaper, which spoke to the hospital, quoted its own unnamed sources as saying Mr Lubitz had been suffering from a physical, rather than a mental, illness. [BBC]

A Duesseldorf hospital says the co-pilot of Germanwings flight 9525 had been a patient there over the past two months. Duesseldorf University Hospital said in a statement Friday that Andreas Lubitz last came to the hospital for "diagnostic evaluation" on March 10. It declined to provide details about his condition but denied German media reports that it had treated the 27-year-old pilot for depression. [Associated Press]

German Pilots Cast Doubt on Blaming of Co-Pilot for Crash

The International Federal of Airline Pilots Associations, or IFALPA, condemned the leaks of the cockpit voice recorder or CVR on Thursday, saying that it violated long-established practices after plane crashes, where details are kept confidential until the investigation is complete.

March 26, 2015

Time - German pilots reacted with anger and confusion on Thursday after French and German statements said the co-pilot on the Germanwings crash earlier this week deliberately slammed the plane into the French Alps, killing all 150 people on board.

Stunned at the revelations, some pilots believe that the authorities are eager to find a culprit to blame, before the relevant facts are known. 
“It is a very, very incomplete picture,” says James Phillips, international affairs director of the German Pilots Association, speaking on the phone to TIME late Thursday. 
He said his own reaction was “angry.”
I have the feeling that there was a search for a quick answer, rather than a good answer,” he said.

In a chilling press briefing on Thursday, the Marseille public prosecutor Brice Robin charged with investigating Tuesday’s crash told reporters that the plane’s 28-year-old co-pilot, Andreas Lubitz, deliberately flew the plane into a mountain while he was alone in the cockpit. His far more seasoned captain, Patrick Sonderheimer, had apparently left for a toilet break, and when Sonderheimer knocked on the cockpit door to come back in, Lubitz refused to open the door. Instead, he took the Airbus A320 plane steadily downwards at 3,000 feet per minute, until it slammed into the Alpine ravine, pulverizing the aircraft and killing 144 passengers and six crew members. Robin said Lubitz had “a willingness to destroy the aircraft.” Shortly after, Lufthansa CEO Carten Spohr and the German Transportation Minister each told reporters that they had concluded, based on Robin’s account, that Lubitz deliberately crashed the plane.
Phillips, who spoke to several members of the pilots’ association immediately after Robin’s press briefing, said they were “very, very confused,” and that the Marseille prosecutor, who is charged with investigating the crash, “raised more questions than he had answered.”

Chief among those questions is why the captain, who spent several minutes banging frantically on the cockpit door, did not use an emergency code, designed to override the system those inside the cockpit use to let someone in. 
“We all agree that the captain left the cockpit,” says Phillips. “But we have an emergency access code to get into the cockpit. That was not mentioned,” he said. 
Other pilots believe that the person within the cockpit can override any attempt to gain entry from outside.

Airbus has a YouTube video to instruct A320 crew members about what to do if one of them is trying to get inside the cockpit, but those inside do not open. According to the video, the crew would tap an emergency code on the keypad outside the cockpit door, setting off a 30-second alarm inside the cockpit, until the door opens for just five seconds, allowing the person to enter.

Robin said he was sure Lubitz was conscious, since the audio on the cockpit voice recorder has him breathing normally throughout the 10-minute descent into the mountains, until the moment of impact. But pilots are not convinced that the breathing sounds meant he was able to open the door to Sonderheimer.
 “Was he conscious? Could he open the door?” Phillips asked. “The prosecutor did not provide answers to that.”
With attention now focused on Lubitz’s mental state, Germanwings crew members who flew with the rookie pilot just days before Tuesday’s crash say he seemed totally normal. 
“We’ve spoken to crew that flew with him a few days before, and say he was relaxed and very normal,” Phillips says. “He was not acting in any way strange. He was friendly and outgoing, and there was never any sign that anyone should be concerned about.”
The International Federal of Airline Pilots Associations, or IFALPA, condemned the leaks of the cockpit voice recorder or CVR on Thursday, saying that it violated long-established practices after plane crashes, where details are kept confidential until the investigation is complete. 
“Leaks of this nature greatly harm flight safety since they invite ill-informed speculation from the media and general public and discourage cooperation with investigators in future accidents,” said a statement from the Montreal-based organization. “The sole purpose of a CVR is to aid investigators… not to apportion blame.”


According to unofficial data from a flight-tracking service, the aircraft took off for its scheduled flight from Barcelona to Dusseldorf in good weather just after 10:00 local time, took about 20min climbing to a cruise height of 38,000ft, where it levelled out for just 3 to 4min, and then entered a steady descent profile without altering its ground speed to any significant extent from the 420-450kt (780-830km/h) adopted in the cruise. It was not a dramatic descent, but was very steady all the way to impact. It also appears to have crashed quite close to its flight-planned track, so there was no sudden veer off course.

1 comment:

  1. MrSnuggles

    Are we really sure that FO's depression played a role here at all?

    He went to a doctor and got a sick note. Are you sure that was for depression? It could have been an injured knee after all that running.

    He went to a hospital that did not treat him for depression. Bad knees?

    When he had a bout of depression in 2008 he reported it and was treated until he was satisfyingly well. As you all noted, five years went by until he actually flew an airplane.

    There are other possibilities out there. Don't slam people because once they were depressed. You can recover very well from a depression with the correct treatment. You can also be depressed without having suicidal thoughts. So excluding every single pilot that has suffered from depression is not necessary, although I see some here make those claims. On the contrary, a pilot that does not fear losing his/her job because of this illness have better chances of recovery because for them there is a light at the end of the tunnel, they have something to fight for!

    I also see that many of you have absolutely no idea how SSRIs actually work and how they are linked to suicide. That is sad. Very sad. Misinformed, I would say.

    http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/558654-airbus-a320-crashed-southern-france-118.html#post8922931


    jaytee54

    Just to play devil's advocate a little.

    What if, during the Captain's toilet break with the Flight attendant in the cockpit, there is a depressurisation problem and the remaining pilot decides on an emergency descent? That's what Lubitz's action may have looked like to a FA, though we pilots know different.

    http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/558654-airbus-a320-crashed-southern-france-119.html#post8922982

    MrSnuggles

    If, and I mean IFF, this was indeed a planned act including concious and thought-through actions, I will be very angry and very sad. Because then this is a mass murder. And that can not, will not, never be justified.

    But first: We don't have enough evidence. Right now there are rumours, innuendos and circumstantial evidence to something that might have been.

    And second: In all other cases where there were confirmed suicide-murders by airplane, the employee in question had a beef with someone in the company. PSA1771, EgyptAir990, FedEx705 (unsuccessful but makes this list anyway). SilkAir185 has some convincing circumstantial evidence that this is the case. All these guys had a very special personality, one that didn't take defeat well. Most of them almost led a double life. Did this German youngster qualify to that? We don't know that yet.

    What I do know is that I agree with Pace on this one. An act like this is more the mindset of a school shooter than that of a depressed person.

    But to be honest... we simply don't know what really took place in that cockpit yet!

    ETA: Oh yes, I forgot that Mocambique flight, can't remember the number now... Again, strange fellow with company issues.

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