Germanwings Co-Pilot, Andreas Lubitz: Suicide or 'Manchurian Candidate'? (Updated)
Andreas Lubitz received psychiatric treatment for a "serious depressive episode" in 2009, German tabloid Bild reported. Citing internal documents and Lufthansa sources, Bild said Lubitz spent a total of 18 months in psychiatric treatment. Lufthansa Chief Executive Carsten Spohr told a news conference that Lubitz had taken a break during his training six years ago, but did not explain why and said he had passed all tests and was “100 percent” fit to fly. "Six years ago there was a lengthy interruption in his training. After he was cleared again, he resumed training. He passed all the subsequent tests and checks with flying colors. His flying abilities were flawless." [Source]
German reporters found Lubitz’s former classmates, who said he took a six-month break from training due to “burnout-syndrome” or “depression.” Bild claims it got access to Lubitz’s profile, indicating the pilot had “psychological problems” and required a “special, exemplary regular medical examination.” Bild also cites sources familiar with the investigation, saying that Lubitz suffered from a “personal life crisis,” following a recent breakup with a girlfriend. [Source]
The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration had issued Lubitz a third-class medical certificate. In order to obtain such a certificate, a pilot must be cleared of psychological problems including psychosis, bipolar disorder and personality disorders. The certificate also means that he wasn't found to be suffering from another mental health condition that "makes the person unable to safely perform the duties or exercise the privileges" of a pilot's license. [Source]
While incredibly rare for a pilot to kill himself — and everyone else on a plane — there is both national and international precedent for what experts call “aircraft-assisted pilot suicides.” According to Federal Aviation Administration data, 24 American pilots have killed themselves while flying their planes in the last two decades. Twenty-three of those pilots intentionally crashed their craft, and one student pilot jumped out of his plane mid-flight. All of the pilots who killed themselves were male and middle-aged. While none of of the American pilots who killed themselves were flying a big commercial aircraft, it has happened elsewhere.
In November 2013, a Mozambique Airlines E-190 jet carrying 33 passengers went down in Namibia under similar circumstances to the Germanwings' crash. No one survived the crash, which became the subject of great mystery because the plane was only one year old, flown by an experienced pilot, in good weather. The Washington Post reported on the crash of E-190:
According to cockpit voice recordings reported by the International Business Times, the co-pilot left to use the bathroom, and when he returned, he found the door shut. Inside, the pilot had switched the plane’s altitude reading from 38,000 feet to ground level. Recordings show someone pounded on the door to the cockpit as the plane plummeted. Investigators later concluded the plane had crashed because of “intentional actions by the pilot.”
Parts of a Mozambique Airlines plane that crashed in the Bwabwata National Park, Namibia, in November 2013.
Suicide or 'Manchurian Candidate?' | Germanwings Co-Pilot, Andreas Lubitz, Deliberately Crashed Plane, Prosecutor Says
March 26, 2015Stillness In The Storm - The Mainstream media is reporting that the copilot, Andreas Lubitz, deliberately brought the plane down, but they are not saying suicide out right.
Its a logical inference to make, either Lubitz committed suicide or had another motivation for deliberately crashing the plane; revenge or terror attack. Or, he was not aware of the events in a conscious sense, he was being manipulated; a Manchurian Candidate.
Given the available evidence, which is more likely?
Suicide
Lubitz should have shown suicidal tendencies before hand, yet we are not hearing any reports about this from the media. In fact, those who have come forward say he was acting normally. Again, given the extreme nature of his death, it's likely some type of odd behavior would have been observed by his co-workers and family.
Suicidal people usually (emphasis on usually) express the following traits:
- Always talking or thinking about death
- Clinical depression -- deep sadness, loss of interest, trouble sleeping and eating -- that gets worse
- Having a "death wish," tempting fate by taking risks that could lead to death, such as driving fast or running red lights
- Losing interest in things one used to care about
- Making comments about being hopeless, helpless, or worthless
- Putting affairs in order, tying up loose ends, changing a will
- Saying things like "it would be better if I wasn't here" or "I want out"
- Sudden, unexpected switch from being very sad to being very calm or appearing to be happy
- Talking about suicide or killing one's self
- Visiting or calling people to say goodbye
Assuming that there were not suicidal indicators, then one would conclude another motivation. Was he trying to send a message to the public or a person? Was he trying to make someone pay?
“During the first 20 minutes, the pilots talk normally,” Mr. Robin said, saying they spoke in a “cheerful” and “courteous” way. “There is nothing abnormal happening,” he said.
The prosecutor said the transcript showed that the captain was preparing a briefing for landing in Düsseldorf. The co-pilot’s answer, the prosecutor said, was “laconic.” [using few words]
The commanding pilot then asks the co-pilot to take over, and the noise of a seat backing up and a door closing can be heard.
“At this stage, the co-pilot is in control, alone,” the prosecutor said. “It is when he is alone that the co-pilot manipulates the flight monitoring system to activate the descent of the plane.” The prosecutor said that this action could only have been “voluntary.”
The control the co-pilot activated requires several turns, Mr. Robin said, and it could not have been turned to such a low altitude accidentally.The captain is heard pleading to get back into the cockpit, but the co-pilot, heard breathing normally until the plane crashes, does not react, Mr. Robin said.
“You can hear the commanding pilot ask for access to the cockpit several times,” the prosecutor said. “He identifies himself, but the co-pilot does not provide any answer.”
“You can hear human breathing in the cockpit up until the moment of impact,” he said, adding that the breathing did not indicate any health problem such as a heart attack.
“You can hear human breathing in the cockpit up until the moment of impact.” And they even go as far as to say his breathing indicates no health problems, in other words he was completely normal and calm. Again this suggests a hypnotic trance of some kind.
Click here to read the rest of the article at Stillness In The Storm.
Germanwings Crash: Andreas Lubitz and the Corporate Media Motives!
ReplyDeletePosted on March 27, 2015 by CaptainObvious
This guy usually bluntly sums up what I think about these situations.
This plane crash doesn’t pass the sniff test for me.
Too much info, too early.
Every plane part is 9/11 flashback anyone?
Really?
Gee. Who hasn’t been doing what the USA/special partner(Israel) wants them to do in the last week or so regarding The Ukraine and monetary policy?
Oh, that’s right. Germany…and France…the EU.
And this plane was…German? What a “coincidence”?
This is a message.
“Organized Crime Coercion 101″.
It’s very obvious. Plus, they’ll get in some more shit about humans being unreliable, mental health, blah, blah, blah, etc.
This copilot could easily have been a “Manchurian Candidate” mind controlled zombie.
And…I haven’t seen the passenger/cargo manifest yet.
Maybe someone didn’t want cargo to get somewhere or certain passengers to arrive safely?
My default is BS until proven otherwise…and TPTB aren’t handling this well or in a normal fashion…at all.
Bastards!
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/germanwings-crash-andreas-lubitz-and-the-corporate-media-motives/127494
Surprise! Andreas Lubitz Was A Muslim Convert
ReplyDeleteMar 27 2015
From Gateway Pundit:
GERMAN REPORT —HE WAS RADICALIZED!
GERMAN CO-PILOT WAS MUSLIM CONVERT–
— STAYED AT Bremen Mosque
Police have reportedly found an “item of significance” at the apartment of the co-pilot who crashed the Germanwing passenger plane into the Alps this week.
The item was NOT a suicide note.
A German news website claims Andreas Lubitz was a Muslim convert.
Speisa.com reported:
According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.
Translation from German:
All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of “radical”, ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he – as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York – received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.
Converts are the most important weapon of Islam. Because their resume do not suggests that they often are particularly violent Muslims. Thus Germany now has its own 9/11, but in a reduced form. And so it is clear that Islam is a terrorist organization that are in accordance with §129a of the Criminal Code to prohibit it and to investigate its followers. But nothing will happen. One can bet that the apologists (media, politics, “Islamic Scholars”) will agree to assign this an act of a “mentally unstable” man, and you can bet that now, once again the mantra of how supposedly peaceful Islam is will continue. And worse still, the attacks by the left against those who have always warned against Islam, will be angrier and merciless.
For now the German Islam supporters like never before have their backs against the wall.
Michael Mannheimer, 26.3.2015
Apparently from the comments at German PI – Andreas Lubitz was Muslim convert from his Facebook page.
http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/2015/03/27/surprise-andreas-lubitz-was-a-muslim-convert/#sthash.mRxvrxN3.dpbs
EllieMacVenue23
ReplyDeleteQuestioning the "Human" factor, is the point. Doubt that he usually went to the bathroom. His coffee could have been laced with a laxative. "Manchurian Candidate". What do you think could have been going on during those eleven months. It doesn't mean this wasn't planned. It was planned. Doesn't mean there could not have been staging at the scene, as with the logo. It's about control. They have chips to put in the brain, who would doubt that they wouldn't force brain implants? Start with pilots, Who is next?
Truth Virus
It looks pretty Hoaxy .... Replace human pilots , remind everyone of "terrorism" , distract everyone while they create more wars in the Middle East , Yemen , Iran and Saudi Arabia are being forced into Wars .... Multiple agendas as always.
disposablechops4hire
Fits perfectly with the script that, among other things; -Humans are fallible, prone to error, use too much oxygen, increasingly higher energy burden, increasing to negative value for modern society. The ultimate lie of course is that humans are animals. Many will fling mud at this point, but i want to assure you that you too are a part of the 95% of world population that is slated for liquidation. The only people who are drawn to positions of authority are people who would like to use it, and the worst people on the planet are in the most powerful positions globally. “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel” -Rabbi Ovadia Yosef
fx02zbn
Right from the very first I thought there was something suspicious about this whole episode. Why would a young guy at the start of a long and exciting career who loved flying decide to kill himself and 150 others? It makes no sense, something is wrong here, very wrong.
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Awaken D
Jeff love your work brother keep it up I have to go with my gut instinct on this one this clearly smells like a psy-op. too many red flags theirs obviously a major distraction going on remember they will only let us see what they want us to see .. conditioning our brain the Alphabet gang has their hands all over this clearly a hoax no one die and clearly we don't need a rocket scientist to see the debri they are finding does not add up with a plane of this size the size of that plane would have left a very visible mark on those mountains trust me the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.. also please keep in mind every passenger aircraft carrier is equipped with an alarm that will trigger any abnormality to air traffic control without the pilot saying a word. They will immediately take over that plane with a virtual flight simulator ready in seconds don't let them brain wash you I was in the airforce planes do not just be dropping put the sky like this rare 1 in a million flights are the odds this is a fuc#% ING distraction this motion picture thriller is brought to you from the directors of 9/11 and guess who are the executive producers CNN FOX NEWS NBC andddddddd. ACTION! People better start waking up Awaken beware of trolls Gn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7NJ2AZGznY
coyotegene86
ReplyDelete"Seven Airbus 320s, one Airbus 330, two French ATR-42 turboprop aircraft, and four Bombardier CJR-900s. Libyan state-owned Afriqiyah Airways fleet is made up of 13 aircraft, including three Airbus 319s, seven Airbus 320s, two Airbus 330s, and one Airbus 340."
That was all all their planes in Lybia and apparently 11 went missing. It's safe to say without the 320s accounted for, there was 13 other planes possible to have been stolen. So with 11 being the total that went "missing" it's a good guess at least a few 320s went missing too.
Interesting to note of the nearly dozen Lybian commerical airliners there was 14 total Airbus 320 models in the lybian fleets and some of them were "stolen" and "lost" Haha...sorry that's just insane.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/missing-libyan-jetliners-raise-fears-of-suicide-airliner-attacks-on-911/
ZombieFeathers
Shows all signs of a staged event. They are pushing for law changes made after 9/11 that aren't yet in other countries, the story keeps changing. Give it 2 days at most and they will find "evidence that links the co-pilot to ISIS."
NikeOpanke
I think there would be larger parts laying around at the scene not as spread as they say..one of the searchers said that no body of the deceased was in tact..that's weird because that could mean that the plane exploded before it hit ground it could also explain the lack of bigger parts being found
lookcloser123
Yep definitely seems to be a story packaged and ready to go.
Truther Housewives of Canada
Ok so here is a thought...I've noticed a huge increase in main stream media coverage and discussions regarding mental health such as in the last 5 years. Anyone else notice this trend? They are trying to create increased awareness (eg. Bell Let's Talk Day). At first I thought this whole movement was a good thing. But I'm also noticing more and more tragedies being blamed on someone with a mental illness. Now trying to bring this back around to what Jeff was saying, I think your right, maybe the bigger agenda is pushing forward towards that Orwellian state. This event is another chess move. They must have complete control including our minds. Therefore it makes sense to push us into a world where data collection and control (mental/psychological, blood testing etc) will be the norm. After all, we are only human...like they said. Then the next step will be to give control to technology (ie, robots, computers, transhumanism etc). It does seem to all tie in when using critical thought to analyze all of these events and always trying to open your mind to the bigger picture. Just my 2 cents:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7NJ2AZGznY
The Don Logan Appreciation Society
ReplyDeleteIt would seem that our friends the MSM would have us believe that Mr. Lubitz had recently converted to the Islamic faith. Well, unfortunately Andreas will never be able to put his side of the story across. However, never let a depressive Muslim convert go to waste, what a fantastically inexpensive piece of propaganda for the shadowy powers that be to further their agenda to demonize the Muslim faith and it's terrorist roots. I'm just waiting for them to produce images of his charred Koran from the cockpit ...
Myah Sundvall
what kind of freak would just sit in the cock pit and breathe normally for 8 minutes while a plane does a nose dive into a mountain. .. i mean who could remain so calm? - 1. unconscious person .2. robot pilot 3. mind control.
Orhan Coskun
check this out, its ongoing since years and always gets covered. Also check out where the Headquarter of Airbus is. Just google for Airbus and toxic gas, there are several incidents in the last few years. The last was in January this year. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210473/Airbus-150-passengers-moments-away-disaster-cockpit-filled-toxic-gases.html
Rich Kanigoski
Real or fake? But how many times have we seen the media take a real event and manipulate facts to fit a narrative. I personally experienced this myself. I was part of a rescue effort years ago and I was so upset of how terrible of an event it was that I had no desire to talk to the media. Of course they made up their own facts which were not even close to what happened and still used my name in the papers. So, God only knows all the shit they have used in the past. The old "don't let a good crisis go to waste" sort of thing. Right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7NJ2AZGznY