January 6, 2016

Fethullah Gülen's Islamic Group is CIA Front, Ex-Turkish Intel Chief Says

All evidence suggests that NATO Turkish Gladio networks picked up Gülen as a potentially useful asset years ago. As their agenda changed with the collapse of the Soviet Union, their role for Gülen changed as well and doors were opened for him to play that role. So in a true sense we can say that the Gülen Cemaat is the nothing more than the projection of an idea from Langley Virginia CIA headquarters, an idea from essentially stupid people there who believed they could use him and they could abuse religion as a cover to advance their design for global control, what David Rockefeller calls One World Government. Unlike the CIA’s Mujahideen Jihadists like Hekmatyar in Afghanistan or Naser Oric in Bosnia, the CIA decided to give Fethullah Gülen a radically different image. No blood-curdling, head-severing, human-heart-eating Jihadist. No, Fethullah Gülen was presented to the world as a man of “peace, love and brotherhood,” even managing to grab a photo Op with Pope John Paul II, which Gülen featured prominently on his website. The Gülen organization in the US hired one of Washington’s highest-paid Public Relations image experts, George W. Bush’s former campaign director, Karen Hughes, to massage his “moderate” Islam image. The ideas and manipulations of the CIA and US State Department are collapsing everywhere today, but they are blinded by their own arrogance. Just look at their absurd mess they created with the neo-nazis in Ukraine. [Source]

On December 9, 2015 attorney Robert Amsterdam held a press conference in Washington DC to announce a new civil suit against the U.S.-based Turkish imam Fethullah Gülen, and share the latest developments from the global investigation into a wide array of alleged abuses and unlawful conduct with the Gülen movement’s charter school empire. A full video of the press conference is below:



BFP Exclusive- William Engdahl on Operation Gladio, Fethullah Gülen & One World Government
“CIA’s Graham Fuller: One of the early advocates of using Muslim Brotherhood & Gülen Cemaat to advance US foreign policy.”

The following is the translation of an interview with William Engdahl conducted by journalist Deniz Ülkütekin of Turkey’s Cumhuriyet:
  1. As I read you started to research about Gulen Cemaat when you came to Turkey for a conference. What was the thing that attracted your interest about Gulen and his members?
  2. WE: I am a geopolitical researcher and author now for more than thirty years. My prime theme is geopolitics or how power is organized in our world by whom, to what aim. When I was invited to Turkey on a speaking tour for one of my books, a Turkish journalist who since has become a trusted friend suggested if I wanted to understand what was going on in Turkey, a country I have long considered to have a far more positive role than she has played within NATO, I should look deeply into the Gülen Cemaat. That began a long process as I began to realize the deeper agenda behind the façade of Rumi that Gülen and his people project.
  3. Our first knowledge about Gülen is his struggle against communism via a foundation (which was a NATO agenda indeed). So could we say that Gülen and his CIA relationship started long ago?
    WE: Yes, all evidence suggests that NATO Turkish Gladio networks picked up Gülen as a potentially useful asset years ago. As their agenda changed with the collapse of the Soviet Union, their role for Gülen changed as well and doors were opened for him to play that role.

    So in a true sense we can say that the Gülen Cemaat is the nothing more than the projection of an idea from Langley Virginia CIA headquarters, an idea from essentially stupid people there who believed they could use him and they could abuse religion as a cover to advance their design for global control, what David Rockefeller calls One World Government.

    Unlike the CIA’s Mujahideen Jihadists like Hekmatyar in Afghanistan or Naser Oric in Bosnia, the CIA decided to give Fethullah Gülen a radically different image. No blood-curdling, head-severing, human-heart-eating Jihadist. No, Fethullah Gülen was presented to the world as a man of “peace, love and brotherhood,” even managing to grab a photo Op with Pope John Paul II, which Gülen featured prominently on his website. The Gülen organization in the US hired one of Washington’s highest-paid Public Relations image experts, George W. Bush’s former campaign director, Karen Hughes, to massage his “moderate” Islam image. 

    The ideas and manipulations of the CIA and US State Department are collapsing everywhere today, but they are blinded by their own arrogance. Just look at their absurd mess they created with the neo-nazis in Ukraine.
  4. As it's a very conflicted subject, how do you certainly believe that Gülen and CIA work together?
    WE: This is not merely my view but that of very knowledgeable Turkish analysts and even the former Turkish MIT senior figure, Osman Nuri Gundes, former FBI Turkish-American translator Sibel Edmonds, and others have documented his deep links to very senior CIA people such as Graham Fuller.  When Gülen fled Turkey to avoid prosecution for treason in 1998, he chose not to go to any of perhaps a dozen Islamic countries which could have offered him asylum. He chose instead the United States. He did so with the help of the CIA. The US State Department tried to block a special “preference visa as an alien of extraordinary ability in the field of education” permanent visa status for Gülen, arguing he was basically a fraud with a fifth grade education and no special Islam scholar. Over the objections of the FBI, of the US State Department and of the US Department of Homeland Security, three former CIA operatives intervened and managed to secure a Green Card and permanent US residency for Gülen.

    Intervention by three current or “former” CIA people--George Fidas, who was US Ambassador to Turkey and an ex CIA Deputy Director; Morton Abramowitz who was described as at least “informal” CIA, and CIA career man who spent time in Turkey, Graham E. Fuller. They got Gülen asylum in Saylorsburg, Pennsylvania. That certainly suggests a strong tie at the very least.
  5. Was the relationship between Gulen and the CIA depending on both parties’ benefits? If so what were their benefits? How did CIA support Gulen to develop and grow his foundation?
    WE: Yes, clearly. For the Gülen Cemaat it enabled a vast business empire to be created which gained more and more influence by placing its people inside the police, the courts and education ministry. He could build his recruiting schools across Central Asia with CIA support. In the USA and Europe, CIA-influenced media like CNN gave him beautiful free publicity to overcome opposition to open his schools across America. For the CIA it was one more tool to destroy not only an independent secular Kemalist Turkey, but to advance their Afghan drug trade worldwide and to use Gülen’s people to destabilize opponent regimes that the CIA network in Washington, the “deep state”, wanted to get rid of.

    Sibel Edmonds, former FBI Turkish translator and “whistleblower,” named Abramowitz, along with Graham E. Fuller, as part of a dark cabal within the US Government that she discovered were using networks out of Turkey to advance a criminal “deep state” agenda across the Turkic world, from Istanbul into China. The network that she documented included significant involvement in heroin trafficking out of Afghanistan.

    On retiring from the State Department, Abramowitz served on the board of the US Congress-financed National Endowment for Democracy (NED), and was a co-founder with George Soros of the International Crisis Group. Both the NED and International Crisis Group were implicated in various US Government-backed “color revolutions” since the 1990’s collapse of the Soviet Union, from Otpor in Serbia to the 2004 Orange Revolution in Ukraine, the 2013-14 coup in Ukraine, to the 2009 Green Revolution in Iran, to the 2011 Lotus Revolution in Tahrir Square in Egypt. 

    Graham E. Fuller had been immersed in the CIA’s activities in steering Mujahideen and other political Islamic organizations since the 1980’s. He spent 20 years as CIA operations officer in Turkey, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Afghanistan, and was one of the CIA’s early advocates of using the Muslim Brotherhood and similar Islamist organizations like Gülen Cemaat to advance US foreign policy.
  6. How does CIA work via Gulen schools at Middle-Asia?
    WE: First it should be noted that Russia moved swiftly to ban the Gülen schools when the CIA began the Chechyn terror in the 1990’s. In the 1980’s when the Iran-Contra scandal broke in Washington (a scheme authored by Fuller at CIA), he “retired” to work at the CIA and Pentagon-financed RAND think-tank. There, under RAND cover, Fuller was instrumental in developing the CIA strategy for building the Gülen Movement as a geopolitical force to penetrate former Soviet Central Asia. Among his RAND papers, Fuller wrote studies on Islamic fundamentalism in Turkey, in Sudan, in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Algeria. His books praise Gülen lavishly.

    After the fall of the USSR, Fetullah Gülen’s cadre were sent to establish Gülen schools and Madrasses across newly-independent former Soviet states in Central Asia. It was a golden chance for the CIA, using the cover of Gülen religious schools, to send hundreds of CIA agents deep inside Central Asia the first time. In 1999 Fuller argued, “The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Russians. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter the Chinese influence in Central Asia.”

    Gülen was named by one former FBI authoritative source as, “one of the main CIA operation figures in Central Asia and the Caucasus.” During the 1990’s the Gülen schools then growing up across Eurasia were providing a base for hundreds of CIA agents under cover of being “native-speaking English teachers.” Osman Nuri Gundes revealed that the Gülen movement “sheltered 130 CIA agents” at its schools in Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan alone in the 1990s.
  7. Gulen migrated from Turkey to USA in 1999, 3 days after terrorist Kurdish movement leader Abdullah Ocalan was kidnapped and brought to Turkey. What did it mean? Could Gulen co-operate better with CIA when he moved USA?
    WE: I think the CIA feared Gülen would end up in prison and could be far more useful in US sanctuary where they could feed his image better and pump up his aura. Now clearly Gülen fears to return to Turkey even though he legally could. That says a lot.
  8. What does Gulen Foundation do for the benefits of CIA inside Turkey and Middle-East?
    WE: That would require a much longer discussion. What I find interesting is how a deep and now bitter split has emerged between Gülen Cemaat in Turkey and President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. I believe Erdogan began to pursue his own agenda and that came in collision with that of the CIA and State Department for Turkey in the larger world.
  9. Turkish goverment AKP currently is running a huge police operation against Gulen members among justice and police organisation. On the other hand, there is public scepticism about these operations as AKP and Gulen were also allies before the November 17th corruption scandal occurred. So could we say that AKP, Tayyip Erdogan and CIA were also allies once?
    WE: Turkey is a NATO member, so no Turkish government is permitted for long if it tries to be independent of NATO, i.e. Washington, for long, as you know. When Erdogan began going his own way, the US networks began to demonize him in media worldwide, and Gülen media attacked him fiercely. I believe the split between Erdogan and Gülen went long before November 17th scandals. Who was behind the leaking of those accusations? What was US Ambassador Francis Ricciardone doing in that regard? Interesting questions for someone.
  10. You say that CIA is at Gulen's side in their fight against AKP. What could CIA do to stop Erdogan and AKP?
    WE: My opinion is that was what the scandals were for, to try to prevent Erdogan’s election as President, but they failed. Keep in mind the “scandal”  was about how Erdogan allegedly violated US oil sanctions against Iran, so the scandals were intended to break that trade, a Washington goal. 
  11. Anything to add...
    WE: I believe that Turkey today can play a very positive role in a new world that is emerging to replace the world of CIA wars, terror and chaos. Turkey is a geopolitical crossroads which has the possibility to play a very positive role in the emerging Eurasian system of China and Russia, the countries of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, in building energy and rail infrastructure. By herself, Turkey will be isolated and broken just as Ukraine, and by the same people. In a principled economic and political alliance with Russia and China, she can play a pivot role in building a new world free of the debt of the collapsing Dollar System that also included the stagnating Europe. Turkey has a beautiful opportunity to partner with Russia and change the world power balance. It will require a lot of will. But if done in a good open way, Turkey could enjoy prosperity as never before and be a genuine “good neighbor.”
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*For the original article (PDF) published by Cumhuriyet click here

William Engdahl, BFP contributing Author & Analyst

William Engdahl is author of A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics in the New World Order. He is a contributing author at Boiling Frog Post and may be contacted through his website at www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net where this article was originally published.

Former Turk intel guy says Gulen is CIA front--in Central Asia

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*No idea who this guy is, but this is at least pretty entertaining. It's interesting that Baer admits the CIA hadn't recruited any 'agents' in Kyrg and Uzb in the '90s, unless he is mocking the use of the word 'agent' instead of 'officer.'

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Islamic group is CIA front, ex-Turkish intel chief says
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2011/01/islamic_group_is_cia_front_ex-.html
By Jeff Stein

A memoir by a top former Turkish intelligence official claims that a worldwide moderate Islamic movement based in Pennsylvania has been providing cover for the CIA since the mid-1990s.

The memoir, roughly rendered in English as "Witness to Revolution and Near Anarchy," by retired Turkish intelligence official Osman Nuri Gundes, says the religious-tolerance movement, led by an influential former Turkish imam by the name of Fethullah Gulen, has 600 schools and 4 million followers around the world.

In the 1990s, Gundes alleges, the movement "sheltered 130 CIA agents" at its schools in Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan alone, according to a report on his memoir Wednesday by the Paris-based Intelligence Online newsletter.

The book has caused a sensation in Turkey since it was published last month.

Gulen could not be reached for comment.

But two ex-CIA officials with long ties to Central Asia cast doubt on Gundes's charges.
 

Former CIA operative Robert Baer, chief of the agency's Central Asia and Caucasus operations from 1995 through 1997, called the allegations bogus. "The CIA didn't have any `agents' in Central Asia during my tenure," he said.

It's possible, Baer granted, that the CIA "turned around this ship after I left," but only the spy agency could say for sure, and the CIA does not comment on operational sources and methods.

A U.S. intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity, also said Gundes's "accounts are ringing no bells whatsoever."

Likewise, Graham Fuller, a former CIA station chief in Kabul and author of "The Future of Political Islam," threw cold water on Gundes's allegations about Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan [the accused Boston Marathon bombers were the nephews of his daughter, Samantha].

"I think the story of 130 CIA agents in Gulen schools in Central Asia is pretty wild," Fuller said by e-mail.

"I should hasten to add that I left CIA in 1987 -- nearly 25 years ago -- and I have absolutely no concrete personal knowledge whatsoever about this. But my instincts tell me the claim is highly improbable."

Fuller added, "I cannot even imagine trying to credibly sell such a scheme with a straight face within the agency. As for Nuri Gundes, I am not aware of who he is or what he has written. But there is a lot of wild stuff floating around in Turkey on these issues and Gulen is a real hot button issue."

Imam Gulen, "whose views are usually close to U.S. policy," according to Intelligence Online, [for real?] favors toleration of all religions, putting his movement in direct competition with al-Qaeda and other radical
groups for the affection of Muslims across Central Asia, the Middle East and even Europe and Africa, where it has also expanded its reach.

Gundes, who was Istanbul station chief for Turkey's MIT intelligence agency, "personally supervised several investigations into Gulen's movement in the 1990s," according to the newsletter's report on his memoir, which has not been translated into English. The purpose of Gundes's investigation was not immediately clear. His own religious views could not be determined, but the influence of radical Islamist forces in Turkey swelled in the 1990s.

The imam left Turkey in 1998 and settled in Saylorsburg, Pa., where the movement is headquartered. According to Intelligence Online, he obtained a residence permit only in 2008 with the help of Fuller and George Fidas, whom it described as head of the agency's outreach to universities.

Fuller says that's wrong.

"I did not recommend him for a residence permit or anything else. As for George Fidas, I have never even heard of him and don't know who he is."

"What I did do," Fuller explained, "was write a letter to the FBI in early 2006 ...at a time when Gulen's enemies were pressing for his extradition to Turkey from the U.S. In the post 9/11 environment, they began spreading the word that he was a dangerous radical. In my statement to the FBI I offered my views...that I did not believe he posed a security threat of any kind to the U.S. I still believe that today, as do a large body of scholars on contemporary Islam.

"I do not at all consider Gulen a radical or dangerous." Fuller continued. "Indeed in my view--and I have studied a lot of Islamist movements worldwide--his movement is perhaps one of the most encouraging in terms of the evolution of contemporary Islamic political and social thinking..."

Fidas could not be reached for comment, nor would the CIA answer questions about him. George Washington University's Elliot School of International Affairs lists him as a visiting professor and "Director for Outreach in the Office of the Assistant Director of Central Intelligence for Analysis and Production."

But the title was abolished when the Directorate of National Intelligence was created several years ago, an informed source said.


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INTERPOL and U.S. reject baseless charges against US-based Turkish Islamic scholar Fethullah Gülen

The İzmir Public Prosecutor's Office sent a petition to the Ministry of Justice on Monday requesting that it ask Interpol to issue an international arrest warrant, also known as a red notice, for US-based Turkish Islamic scholar Fethullah Gülen, as part of a government-instigated operation, despite the rejection of several earlier requests for his arrest or extradition by Interpol and US authorities due to a lack of evidence.

 December 14, 2015

JD Supra, LLC - Clients often ask if a INTERPOL member country can request another Red Notice after it has been rejected or deleted already by INTERPOL. This concern arises when the Red Notice request is motivated by political concerns or personal vendettas.  And, as the case of Fethullah Gülen illustrates, those repeat requests are sometimes made, and INTERPOL usually recognizes them for what they are: more of the same.

INTERPOL has reportedly rejected Turkey’s renewed request for a Red Notice against Turkish Islamic scholar Fethullah Gülen, a cleric who lives in exile in the United States. The decision, reported here (see next article below), cited a lack of evidence that Gülen had committed any crime, and also referred to political issues raised by Turkish officials.

Turkish prosecutors accused Gülen of being part of a “parallel structure,” which is illegal under the current regime.  As reported in Zaman Today:
The term “parallel structure” was invented by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to refer to followers of the Gülen movement, also known as the Hizmet movement, a grassroots social initiative inspired by the ideas of Gülen.
INTERPOL apparently indicated in its decision that it did not recognize the “parallel structure” as a illegal or terrorist organization. In other words, the charges against Gülen appear to have been fabricated based on his political activity. His case is widely viewed as part of a government crackdown on dissidents and political opposition, as described here. U.S. officials have also thus far refused to extradite Gülen back to Turkey.

Another red notice request submitted for Gülen despite earlier rejections

Another red notice request submitted for Gülen despite earlier rejections
Turkish Islamic scholar Fethullah Gülen. (Photo: Cihan)

December 9, 2015

Today's Zaman (English language Turkish daily owned by Gülen) - The İzmir Public Prosecutor's Office sent a petition to the Ministry of Justice on Monday requesting that it ask Interpol to issue an international arrest warrant, also known as a red notice, for US-based Turkish Islamic scholar Fethullah Gülen, as part of a government-instigated operation, despite the rejection of several earlier requests for his arrest or extradition by Interpol and US authorities due to a lack of evidence.

Interpol reportedly rejected the Justice Ministry's two requests in August and September to issue international arrest warrants for several people, including Gülen, on charges of membership in a terrorist organization, on the grounds that it had been provided with no evidence of the people having been involved in crimes.

Interpol also told the Turkish government that it does not recognize the so-called “parallel structure” of which those people were also allegedly members.

Ten suspects were arrested on Sunday as part of the second wave of an İzmir-based police operation into an alleged spy ring, whose members stand accused of obtaining classified military information to sell to third parties.

The İzmir Public Prosecutor's Office had released a statement on the operation carried out in November, claiming the suspects are members of the “parallel structure.” The term “parallel structure” was invented by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to refer to followers of the Gülen movement, also known as the Hizmet movement, a grassroots social initiative inspired by the ideas of Gülen.

The ruling Justice and Development party (AK Party) government has asked for the extradition of Gülen from the US several times since two major graft operations incriminating the inner circle of Erdoğan and his family went public on Dec. 17 and 25, 2013. The government received negative replies from the authorities in the US due to a lack of evidence to support the charges. Erdoğan also stated several times that he been personally asking US President Barack Obama to "deport" Gülen since 2014; however, US authorities balked at the suggestion, with the White House even accusing Erdoğan of misrepresenting the content of his phone conversation in 2014 with US president.

Turkey puts US-based cleric on trial over Erdogan graft claims

January 6, 2016

AFP - The US-based cleric who has emerged as the arch foe of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan goes on trial with dozens of former police officers on Wednesday over the publication in 2013 of graft claims that rocked Turkey's strongman.

The trial at Istanbul's main courthouse is part of a crackdown against the movement of cleric Fethullah Gulen, which the government describes as a battle against a "parallel state" but opponents say amounts to repression of critics.

Gulen, 74, was an ally of Erdogan when his Islamic-rooted Justice and Development Party (AKP) came to power in 2002. But the two fell out as Gulen's own influence increased and the government blamed his movement for the stunning corruption allegations against Erdogan's inner circle, including his own son Bilal, that broke in December 2013.

Gulen, who lives in exile in a secluded compound in the US state of Pennsylvania, will be tried in absentia.

He stands charged of "attempting to bring down the government" and "running a terrorist group", his lawyer Nurullah Albayrak said.

Gulen is accused of giving orders to allies in Turkey's police force to launch the probe. But Albayrak said that the evidence offered by the prosecutors in the 1,453 page-long indictment failed to support these claims.
"There is no evidence that this was a terrorist organisation. The charges are based on assumptions and on simple declarations and these are not enough," he said.
"The only proof they have is a single phone call made by my client (Gulen) to a police officer the day the scandal broke, and in that one, there is no indication that he is giving orders to anyone."
Prosecutors are seeking an aggravated life term -- the highest penalty possible in Turkey -- for Gulen and two former police chiefs.

The other 66 suspects in the case, most of them police officers charged with being members of an armed organisation, face jail time ranging from seven years to 330 years.

- '280 suspects in jail' -

Gulen is currently being investigated in two other cases but Wednesday's trial is the most high-profile as it directly concerns the corruption scandal, which posed one of the biggest challenges to Erdogan in his career first as premier and now as president.

Gulen has been based in the United States since 1999 when he fled charges against him laid by the former secular authorities. Turkey has asked the United States to extradite him but Washington has shown little appetite for doing so.

Despite living outside of Turkey, Gulen built up huge influence in the country through allies in the police and judiciary, media and financial interests and a vast network of cramming schools designed to make up for deficiencies in the state education system.

Ankara now accuses Gulen of running what it calls the Fethullahaci Terror Organisation/Parallel State Structure (FeTO/PDY) and seeking to overthrow the legitimate Turkish authorities.

Gulen supporters decry the accusations as ridiculous, saying all he leads is a more informal group known as Hizmet (Service).

The authorities have in the last months stepped up investigations into companies with ties to Gulen, including a series of raids on pro-Gulen media that have raised fears about the government's commitment to democracy.

According to the state-run Anatolia news agency, around 1,800 people, including 750 police officers and 80 soldiers, have been detained as part of a crackdown against the followers of Gulen since arrests began in the summer 2014.

Some 280 of them are still in jail pending trial, Anatolia said.

Supporters of Gulen are currently being investigated over a number of controversial cases including the interception of trucks belonging to Turkey's secret service allegedly carrying arms bound for Syria, as well as illegal eavesdropping of top officials including Erdogan.
"We promise that the gang leaders and others will be brought to justice," Erdogan said late last month.

Erdogan cites Hitler's Germany to defend presidency plans

January 1, 2016

AFP - Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan cited Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler to defend his controversial push to expand the powers of the presidency, local media reported on Friday.

Erdogan, the strongman of Turkish politics for more than a decade, is seeking a new constitution to transform his post into a powerful US-style executive "super-presidency," which he says will provide more effective governance.
"In a unitary system (such as Turkey's) a presidential system can work perfectly," Erdogan was quoted as telling reporters in Istanbul on Thursday on his return from a visit to Saudi Arabia.

"There are already examples in the world and in history. You can see it when you look at Hitler's Germany," he was quoted as saying.
But in a press statement published later, the Turkish presidency said it was "unacceptable" to interpret Erdogan's remarks as endorsement of Nazism.
"Our president... has declared that the Holocaust and anti-Semitism, along with islamophobia, are crimes against humanity," it said.
It added that Hitler's Germany "had disastrous consequences" for the political system and could not be held up as a model.

Erdogan, emboldened by his Justice and Development Party's (AKP) landslide election win in November, has suggested holding a referendum on the proposed constitutional reforms.

Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu last week launched negotiations with other political parties on a new charter to replace the 1980 constitution drafted by the military after a coup that year.

In his comments on Thursday, Erdogan -- seen by critics as increasingly authoritarian -- called for large-scale public consultations on the reforms to try to ensure a "full societal agreement".
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Two corrupt islamists; both shared power when they plotted together the trials against the democratic, secular civil rights movements, and the secular, leftwing intellectuals a coule of years ago.. When they were finished with the army, and the above mentioned sectors of the society, it was time to go into power strugle against each other. I am certain that Gulen gets a lot of backing from MOSSAD and CIA..... Down with both of them; the enemies of the open, secular democratic societies!

This is ridiculous, not because Gulen is innocent, but the corrupt dictator of Turkey and Gulen were best friends and acted together to frame the generals of the Turkish Army with false documents and witnesses bought before they fell out with one another. Also, the corruption investigations have proven to be correct, and although the Dictator got away from it all and saved his #$%$ by jailing the prosecutors, judges and the police chiefs, who had started the investigations, and appointing his own men, three of his ministers had to resign. The voice recordings of the Dictator's and his son in which the Dictator is telling him to get rid of the cash amounting to 100s of millions of euros, which the Dictator is unable to get rid of, is still widely circulating on the Web. It's a shame that once such a promising country is now in hugely deep #$%$.

The thief got caught.. He free.... Yet the cops that caught him
are in prison...... This is Erdogan's Turkey..
This is this simple.. He is becoming one man governing Turkey.
we are witnessing another Dictator of Middle East and the
worst an Islamic one.. that helps ISIS.....
Poor Turkish citizens.............


What this article fails to show is that Erdogan himself was implicated in the corruption and taped accounts reveal Erdogan telling his son to rush home and get rid of millions of dollars in cash. In fact, despite the corruption probe being done legally, in accordance with Tukey's constitution, the police and special investigators all acting in accordance with legally accepted authorities, Erdogan rejected the findings because it implicated him.

Interestingly enough, he certainly had no qualms in accepting these same prosecutors and special investigators when they turned such taped information on the military.


I hope that he said "Erdogan is a snake" because that is what Erdogan is. Why the U.S. deals with him is a mystery. The Kurds are our best ally in Iraq and Syria and Erdogan wants to commit genocide on them.

We use an air force base an air base, located in the İncirlik. The United States Air Force and the Turkish Air Force are the primary users of the air base. It would be a while before Kurds develop that much of a country to have an air force, let alone a base that we can use.

The two most dangerous men in the middle east are Baghdati of ISIS and the Muslemo-Fascist Erdogan of Turkey - they are both schizophrenic and best to avoid, yet they are holding office and hundreds of thousands (idiots if you ask me) listen to what they have to say.

Can someone explain to why a clear blatant political oppression of law enforcement agencies by Turkey dictator receives no condemnation from Obama's regime while he said Assad must go? Can I say Erdogan must go or US will support moderate rebels in Turkey?

What is a fact is that Gulen is just as dangerous as Ayatollah of Iran, when he returned from exile in France to Iran and deposed the shah of Iran back then. Gulen has had the same plans for himself - another religious terrorist who has not started the beheadings yet.


Erdogan is running a terrorist group. And he is the boss of this group. Evil people often accuse others of the very crimes they themselves commit. This is an evading technique, often used successfully, but Erdogan's lies won't deceive me... That said, I don't know this other guy, so I can't judge whether he is better than Erdogan or the same rubbish...

Either Gulen either either Erdogan are two rubish #$%$ yearning to controll Turkey's islamist poultry. No one of them cares civil rights and diversity freedoms and dignity, namely for minorities like Kurds, Armenians, Greeks descendentes and their history, traditions, religions, atheism, secularism, languages, jobs. It's small the diference between them and Saudi-ISIS ideology.Even Atartuk had no comprised mind about. All Midle East countries mind powers arfe sectarian. I think the better or lesser bad of them is Israel and, despite their dictatorships, Egypt and Syria's Assad regimen.

Either Gulen either either Erdogan are two rubish #$%$ yearning to controll Turkey's islamist poultry. No one of them cares civil rights and diversity freedoms and dignity, namely for minorities like Kurds, Armenians, Greeks descendentes and their history, traditions, religions, atheism, secularism, languages, jobs. It's small the diference between them and Saudi-ISIS ideology.Even Atartuk had no comprised mind about. All Midle East countries mind powers arfe sectarian. I think the better or lesser bad of them is Israel and, despite their dictatorships, Egypt and Syria's Assad regimen.

Erdogan, is so afraid of the 'skeletons in the closets', that will further exposed and undermine his legitimacy as a Caliphate Sultan of Turkey……..And yes, Erdogan and his son are war profiteer of Iraqi contraband oil and financing ISIS and DAESH……Let Putin, deal with Erdogan, do not let NATO get suck in by this ambitious Buffoon…….

When he came to power Erdogan slowly replaced all secular Muslim officers with members of his own party which u probably know are all Muslim Brotherhood.

 Gülen = CIA shill

Gulen = Tayyip Erdogan. Wasn't it Erdogan who allowed all the Gulen staff inside the Police and the courts? wqasn't it Erdogan who once said "NE ISTEDILER DE VERMEDIK" (What have they - Gulen - asked and we haven't given). Both are partners in crime.

Only salvation for Turkey is to go back to the enlightened path of Mustafa Kemal ATATURK.

7 comments:

  1. Ahmet said at Robert Amsterdam.com:

    I am a Turkish-American.. All I can say is you just hired by Turkish government and Turkish government is using its tax payer money to hire you and support AK Party and cover their corruption! That is is sad! I guess you underestimate the power of USA (FBI, CIA, Immigration, local board of educations… !)


    Hilmi said at Robert Amsterdam.com:

    I was one of those teachers in those charter schools. And I know what is going on in those schools very well. Whatever Mr. Amsterdam says in his press conference are all proved and supported by the documentations.

    In terms of Gulen, he lives in PA, so he should be sued in PA. And as you know the case was accepted by the court. So that means those three people can sue Fethullah Gulen in the USA.

    Corruprion accusations are irrelevant of this topic. Gulen people keep saying this. Instead of defending themselves, they keep saying Erdogan is worse than us.
    This argument doesn’t work in the court.

    Lucifer said at RobertAmsterdam.com:

    Ironically the firm owner (Rothschilds) that Patrick J Egan works for is the one who created and backed Fethullah Gulen 30 years ago… So i am really curious about the final of this trial.

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  2. RSK said at RobertAmsterdam:

    I am not a Gulen sympathizer and for many years I have criticized his efforts to Islamize Turkey, and especially for the wrongdoings in the despicable mock cases against Turkey’s military. But Gulen’s biggest crime, in my opinion, is to bring RTE and the AKP to power in Turkey. I am certain that this is Gulen’s greatest regret.

    Amsterdam, being a good and expensive lawyer, retained by RTE with the nation’s money, is conveniently omitting the deep partnership between Gulen and his client (Turkish government). Whatever accusation he comes up against Gulen, should be directed to his client as well. Those schools were hailed by RTE and AKP! The very same media organs that RTE rabidly attacks and confiscates today were AKP’s propaganda tools that got him elected in the first place! Those Gulen teachers and followers were the ones that went door to door to get votes for RTE!

    Whatever crime was committed by victimizing innocent and valuable people during the shameful Ergenekon and Balyoz trials was shared by the very same government that Amsterdam represents. Diminishing the Turkish military was RTE’s plan to secure his regime. RTE had declared himself “the prosecutor” of those despicable, fake trials. And the “special prosecutor Oz” was AKP’s “golden boy” at that time.

    What the corrupt client of Amsterdam did is use Gulen for as long as he needed him and his services, and then trash him when his shelf life expired. Especially because those once beloved-partners exposed RTE’s corruption of gigantic dimensions.

    If Gulen is prosecuted in the U.S. or Turkey or anywhere, Erdogan must sit right next to him as a co-defendant!!!

    You can do your work and earn your money Counselor, but those of us who know Turkey will never buy what you are selling.

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  3. John Favere said at RobertAmsterdam:

    Dear Mr.Amsterdam

    I would like to start off and say Thank You for taking on this case against Gulen! I grew up 3 minutes from this Compound in Saylorsburg Pennsylvania! Which was the town called Wind Gap Pennsylvania.These are the facts .Number one Gulen has 24 hour arm guards surrounding his compound with semi-automatic weapons!!

    Number 2 I have witnesses on things that could be very helpful!

    Number 3 why would the Turkish people from Gulens compound go to a local farmer an ask how to mix fertilizer together! If anyone knows about fertiliser if you mix certain ones together it can cause an explosion! Keep in mind I have witnesses!

    Number 4 there was a fire at Gulens compound the firemen showed up to put the fire out. But this was a problem the Turkish guards at Gulen camp at the front entrance would not let them in ! So the firemen called the police the police show up at Gulens compound! Still they couldn’t get in ! So the police called the national Guard or it was someone possibly in Washington? I also have a witness for this the person was a fireman! Keep in mind I have many more witness regarding Gulen!

    Keep in mind I spoke with Charlie Dent on the Washington JOURNAL C-SPAN regarding Gulen! This was live Tv. There was a investigation regarding 10 congressman in 2003! They took money from the turkish alliance group. But the trip was paid by Gulen. What sad about all this this man is a clergymen! Why would he need to do all these illegal things ? Why would the United States protect a man that possibly can do harm to the American people! Why would Gulen need so many Hb1 Visa for a clergymen an charter schools!

    I feel in my heart we has citizens an as Americans where not told the truth! I hope you can bring this to justice? I feel this Gulen is 1000s times powerful than any Mafia Boss ever lived! He is called the Quiet one! Or maybe the black sheep in the pack? I just don’t think are children should be taught by Turkish men without the right credentials on teaching! I also spoke with Turkish people about Gulen! God Speed

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  4. Fevzi said at RobertAmsterdam.com:

    John,

    I was in that group for a very long time. I left the group after I noticed the corruption they do. I can tell you that they wouldn’t ask a farmer about mixing the fertilizers. This doesn’t make sense.

    But I can tell you two things. I was in that campground twice. In my first visit, they were preparing gifts for the judges in that area and also for the preachers in the local churchs. This is not appropriate. I don’t know if the judges accepted those gifts, but the guys in the campground were preparing.

    The second thing I will tell you is this. You know they built a very big building in the campground recently. In my second visit, a guy from that campground told me that they hired the mayor’s company to construct that building. He was saying that Fethullah Gulen is shifty, so he knows who to hire. I don’t know who is the mayor. And I don’t know if the mayor does construction business. But I was told this in the campground. So they want to have the politicians and judges in their side.

    I am not living close to the town. Maybe you can research if this is true.

    Regards.

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  5. Dear Mr.Amsterdam,

    I spoke with a reporter out of Washington ! I was told in a Lebanese Newspaper that you are receiving $50,000 dollars a month! Regarding the investigation against Gulen. I also was told that this might be illegal! I can’t say why but this information was going to be looked at in Washington D.C.Capitol!

    The one thing that puzzles my investigators ? Why won’t the United States step in to help or why won’t they take the lead on this investigation???? Something doesn’t make sense here! I speak a little Turkish.

    I spoke with people from Iran, Russia, Bulgaria, and many Turkish people throughout the United States. Fevzi said it doesn’t make sense to mix fertilizer! But what if the farmer said he would take a polygraph test! Would that prove the point?

    Like I said if the man Gulen is such a good man? Plus he is called a clergymen why would he need all this protection? Yes everyone might have the right to protect there home ? But if I’m correct I think the pope in Italy doesn’t have has much protection!

    I spoke with many Turkish people when I show Gulens Picture! I asked them do you know this man! The first word out of there mouth is Mafia! But I say to them Gulen is a religious Preacher. They always tell me to be very careful! You are here today and gone tomorrow?

    Keep in mind I grew up 3 minutes from this camp! I never in my dreams thought this ever could happen here? I know there are good people in the middle east. But regarding Gulen sometimes I wonder who is are real enemy! If the United States is protecting a TERRORIST? Won’t the one who protects a terrorist be the real enemy???

    I can call a politician in Washington no answer? It seems if you payoff everyone from the top to the bottom!! There is no choice to choose from? I have many facts on Gulen plus documents! But like I said you can go to court have a trial an a jury! Its like this you go to a Horse Racetrack, you bet on a horse to win! The only problem is the fix is in! You will always lose!!!!!!

    You can have all the FBI agents you want to stop this man you won’t, never! Why there are over 1000s of politicians involved!

    This is like a dictatorship, you listen to me or else! Remember I’m fullblooded Italian what I have read an experienced in my life time about the Mafia! This man can buy anyone any where throughout the world !!! I hope Robert Amsterdam can stop this man! But going back on betting horses! I won’t put all my money on this law firm? If you no what I mean!

    God Speed
    John Favere

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  6. Deniz said at RobertAmsterdam.com:

    I have Turkish citizenship. I am a certified educator from the State Board of Education (I don’t want to give the name of the state) and hold numerous certificates including an initial elementary education certificate and two master’s degrees in two highly demaned fields in education, and several endorsements which include two endorsements in foreign languages. I also speak Turkish fluently. I applied one of the Gulen’s schools, but not accepted because -as I learned from a teacher friend who works in one of the school- they were sure that they couldn’t manipulate me and get a portion of my pay-check every month as mandatory “donation” to the Hizmet movement. I was said that they didn’t have a position available for me, which was a lie because they hired another Turkish woman with zero educational credentials (from both the USA and Turkey). She was the wife of a Turkish man who was the loyal servant of the Hizmet Movement.

    Later, when I learned about the sub-standard work conditions, extremely poor/lowest quality of education with no professional support/professional development efforts, the expectations (especiaally the monetary contributions to the Movement) from so called “adminsitrators,” and low salaries, I believe Allah blessed and protected me. Those so called “schools” are just as toxic as they could be and must be closed immediately. They are simply a huge burden to American tax payers. Finally, I want to clarify that I am a proponent of NEITHER this movement NOR the current government in Turkey.

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  7. A Turk said at RoberAmsterdam.com:

    One of the biggest scams from the Gulen Movement is the 11/2014 Congressional Recognition of Gulen. As usual they have used generic terms to describe Gulen. “Works tor peace and tolerance” “promotes dialogue” and “Protects human rights in Turkey” Never does the Gulen Movement give SPECIFIC substantiated examples of 5th grade educated Gulen’s endeavors. I and others would like to hear of the specifics of the Pasha of the Poconos.

    I applaude you for trying to clean up this entangled web of deceit that cemaat has spun in the USA. Although Gulen is the figure symbol he is no scholar, his formal education didn’t exceed the 5th grade. I encourage you to stay the course and you have an exceptionally good grasp as to the level of lies, fraud and secrecy this shameful cult works under. They are very greedy and all about growing share of power, this has incited many to suspect others of cheating and stealing within the group. Yes there is bickering and dissent in the groups but the elders are feared.

    Many of the teachers in the USA came from poor families who never went beyond the 3rd grade, never did they dream the would be a teacher or a principal one day in a school let alone in America. What these followers don’t understand is to be a principal for most Americans you have to have an advanced degree beyond a undergraduate and also serve as Vice-Principal sometimes up to 12 years before you earn the spot of Prinicipal. Obviously Gulen isn’t the brains behind this operation he is merely a figure symbol. They do have protection in the right areas like old friend Graham Fuller. However, with Gulen having no more clout in Turkey , and Gulenists dismantled from high positions in Turkey, their businesses being closed, schools closed, etc., what purpose will they serve to politicians beyond a brown sack of cash? The money is drying up for them in the USA and in Turkey and when that happens they become reactionary. They get sloppy and make mistakes, which will lead to more issues for them.

    The Gulen Movement continues to bark out that “Erdogan is corrupt” and that you are merely hired to protect his corruption. The problem with this weak argument is that the Gulen Movement is who put AKP /Erdogan into power and shared the same values.

    The other area of concern is the lying on the Visa application and appeal for Gulen. If it is found that he is not a “person of extraordinary gifts” and Gulen cannot demonstrate this shouldn’t his visa be revoked under the fact it was obtained under false pretenses? Perhaps his law firm that handled the appeal could be deposed so they can elaborate on these mystical powers that Gulen has that the USA was to benefit from.

    Lastly you want to educate yourself on the Janissary system of the Ottoman empire which was a program of kidnapping young boys to mold and shape them into a future army and leader. Since Gulen’s wet dream is to establish a golden generation of which will inherit and operate a neo Ottoman Empire there is a lot of correlation between the schools and the structures of the Ottoman Empire.

    The title of Gulen’s estate in Pennsylvania is suppose to be under “Golden Generation Retreat” myself and others would like to see more on the paperwork surrounding the purchase of his estate, the selling price, and what “individuals” were involved in the sale.

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